finshed my last cycle now hmmm...aroudn 9-10weeks ago found it great but! in hindsight i should not of taken winny as i was doing to much MMA/BJJ etc. outside of weight training and i went form 98kgon week 10 and after 4wks winny i ended up 90kg so which i am now so after cycle i have gained 4kg been honest not bad really as i started of 86kg.
anyways after my hols in LOS and trained with few guys there who know there shit like ye and they recommended using Trenbolone along with Test-C its a 12wk cycle
weeks 1-12 Test-C 500mg(or 600mg)
Trenbolone 75mg EOD
Arimidex or winny 50mg weeks 9-12
(i think i let the winny off though!)
my mate his HUGE!!! as a kick start for the first to weeks he take an extra shot fo Test-C i.e. say if i was taken 400mg for cycle for the first 2 wks take 600mg then 400mg for rest of the cycle

anyways waht ye guys think??

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What was your last cycle and how long have you been off for?

Adex or winny? Not sure what that means as they are not the same. Adex is something you run through your cycle to keep gyno at bay and such. The winny the last 4 weeks is ok.
The extra shot of Cyp the first 2 weeks will kick in the same time as it normally would, just when it does there will be more available. If you want a kick start to the cycle you can do Dbol for the first 4 weeks at 30 - 50mg a day or Test Prop at 75 - 100mg EOD.

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^^^^i agree but other than that test and tren...kick ass

I'm a fan of running 100mg/ED for Tren ace/Test Prop. Also, with orals, i'd run then 4 weeks in the beginning of the cycle, and the last 4 week so of the cycle if you don't want to run them the entire time.

Keep Adex on hand incase of gyno issues, unless they pop-up, don't run it.

Test C: 600mg/week
Tren Ace: 75mg/ed
Dbol: 50mg/ED
For the entire 12 weeks seems good. But depends on your goals.

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Thanks for all the replies lads....
everyone seems to be a fan of dbol to kick start the cycle instead of upper my test-c in the first 2 weeks instead.
Thanks lads

My last cycle was:
Wk 1-12 test-c 500mg
wk1-5 40mg dbol
wk 9-13 40mg winny

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A long 20 week cycle of test and Eq would amaze you, the doses dont even have to be high. 500mgs of test cyp or enth, and 400-500mgs of Eq, and your set. Helps with endurance ( since your doing mma training), and allows you to recouperate if you train each bodypart twice a week, well i did for me any ways. Its a good cheap mild cycle, with minimal sides.

Agreed...I would also include those D-Bols and remember... Have a good PCT ready!!!

Agreed!


This is the way to go! If you want to run TA eod I would hit atleast 100mg eod and the DBOL for the first 4 weeks. Don't run the ADEX unless you have to man.

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Also, don't forget the important part of your cycle is to eat, eat, and eat. Shovel in a lot of food, just make sure it's quality and nutrient dense food.

^^^Agreed!

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