Any recommendations on an oral stack/cycle? I'm not really in a position to use injectables. I'm pretty new to AAS use, so please be as thorough as you can. Thanks!

Adding an injectable would make the cycle well worth it.

If you only run an oral one of the best ways would be

DBOL 4-6 weeks at 40-50mg everyday followed by PCT at the end of the cycle to help you maintain muscle mass.


Why are't you able to use an injectable?

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I have to be as discrete as possible. Don't want to have syringes and vials in the house, would not go over well with the better half. Pills can be easily disguised as supps.

You can hide syringes pretty easy bro, no vials needed, pre-load everything so you are ready to go. Also do a quad shot in case they check your hiney, lol

I've never heard of pre-loading, that would help. Would still need to find a good spot out of reach of the kids and out of sight from the wife.

My priorities are strenght and conditioning. If I go with just orals, should I stick with just the DBOL or stack with something else?

If I do add an injectable, what would you recommend as a good stack? I want to keep it as simple as possible.

Also, I'm the only one doing the hiney check'n round here!!! LOL

a good oral cycle hmmmm... up and down side to side all the way to the back errm ask milleniumgirl lol

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Simple as possible? Test Enanthate 500mg a week for 12 - 14 weeks. And you can pre-load your whole cycle into the syringes, get rid of the vials and just use 1 at a time. I have a safe for mine and you can get a small personal safe anywhere and they fit in most places.

IMHO you should do a little more reasearch before you jump on the juice bro.google anabolic steroids and read.learn a little about the side effects,how they wiil effect you so you know what to expect from them,and post cycle therapy.you dont need to be an expert just have a little basic knowlage.
also you should talk to your wife and be up front bro.you said you need to be discrete and passing the pills off as supps is simple but hiding a 20+lb weight gain in 4wks is kinda hard to hide or be discrete about LOL!!

man you should be honest with your other half..... IF anything did go wrong or you got a reaction or Anything at all took too many Etc.... its good to have someone there who can tell someone that you take this and that ..... And if it does affect your relationship then you got to decide what means more but it would be the other half all the way ... be carefull

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Guys, don't think I haven't given this some serious thought. I'm in the process of researching things as we post these threads. And I'm seeking advice from those of you with experience. I've been liftining for over 15 years and have taken my body about as far as I can naturally and I'm ready to take it to the next level. I appreciate all your feedback thus far.

im not telling you to not use bro im just saying research a little before hand.
if you want to run an oral only cycle(which i think youll be unhappy with in the end)then pick a compound and do a little research on it,also a little research on PCT which is just as important (or more so) as your cycle!!
my advise is to run an injectable for your first cycle then add to it later.
500mg test E or C 12 to 14 wks then PCT!!

BTW bro,ive seen the juice end a lotta relationships!!

IMO there is no such thing as a good oral cycle.

If you want to get huge go with Anadrol and Dbol. A little toxic but will do the trick.

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hit the nail on the head...


No offense to anyone else here who has posted..but what's with the high doses? I mean dont get me wrong i dont consider 500mgs of enanthate a lot...but for a first timer i'm sure 250mgs a week would be plenty. Just my 2 cents on that matter, if anyone cares to explain this theory i'm all ears.


But like Doc said, there's no such thing as a good oral cycle. Personally i think you may be better off just trying different things such as diet, training and so on. and I do understand you wanting to be as discrete as possible...But as everyone else has said, there are ways to continue being discrete and safe.

Bro just bite the bullet and take a pin! I been keeping the shit from my Ol' lady for years. Ya just gotta be careful and paly it safe!! LK had a great idea about pre-loading and disposing after use sure fire way not to get caught. Also keep in mind if you jump on a genorus D-Bol cycle, you'll have to be able to explain instant bloat, weight gain, acne. So, if your going to tkae the risk might as well go all the way. Good luck bro! As far as dose goes my recc would be inline with the crowd 500 mg test 50 mg d-bol, depening on if it your 1st cycle, if not go 750 test and 50 mg d-bol but just be sure you have pct on hand in case your gyno prone. You think its hard to get away with aas, trying running hgh or hcg, trying to hide that shit in te fridge and take it everyday if rough.

250mgs wk is a HRT (hormone replacement theropy) dose.remember just because you pin 250mgs wk your blood levels will never reach 250mgs.

Even so...what's your point luvthetest? And yes i know what HRT is bud...I'm just curious to see why everyone thinks more is better it seems?

its not a more is better thing bro because im with you on the use less your FIRST couple of cycles,asses your tolerances and reactions to sides then go from there!!
my point is that 250mgs per wk will put your blood levels just over normal at best,pretty much a waste of gear.500mgs per wk puts you above normal but not into the high range and seems to be the optimal dose for a first timer!!
i wont go into a bunch of numbers but a 250mg shot of cyp would only be about 26mgs of test in your blood the first day then drop from there!!

The best oral cycle I can advise ,is to brush your teeth twice daily,in the morning and again at night.The women will love you bro.
Just stick with it.

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Agreed!


And luvsthetest, i definitely understand what you're saying. I may pm you with some q's about it though!

I have a friend who's wife does not like him using pins at all. So he just keeps it all at his brothers house. You always have a reason to visit you brother, right
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